mcgovern and bob dole both lost and they got relevant working as a tandem team but they were also both world war ii vets who had a lot of love and respect on capitol hill. >> there have been friendships that didn't get too functional. carter got along good with jerry ford. they became good friends. >> very. >> of course, george w.'s father, george sr. bush became good friends with bill clinton. he calls him his son practically. this does work occasionally. >> you can't imagine that happening, though, with romney and obama. >> we saw them in the debate. they don't like each other. >> they don't like each other. there seems to be a personal animosity toward each other. they don't seem to respect one another. >> why do people, this is not partisan, an observation, why does everybody who run against romney hate him? mccain picked sarah palin, he hated him so much, rather than him as running mate. >> it's a core. >> and lacking one. >> obama as his legal background likes to have a legal argument that fits together. romney's ideology doesn't do that. i think there's not that -- >> do they be